Ep 153: Dirty Talk, Travel Sex and Erotica Book Clubs with Jocelyn Silva

 

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Why are people into dirty talk? What are different types of dirty talk? How can we start experimenting with verbally expressing our hottest thoughts and desires? 

In this episode, Effy invites Jocelyn Silva to discuss the ins and outs of dirty talk. They explore why people are into it, appreciate different types and share some solid tips on how to get started.

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Jocelyn Silva is a bisexual polyamorous Sexual Empowerment Coach, Sex Educator, First Generation Latina, and full-time digital nomad. She empowers YOU to embrace your sexual essence and lead a pleasure-FILLED life! She has 12 years of sex education experience, and 3 years coaching women, couples, and now men on their road to full sexual empowerment + embodiment.

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TRANSCRIPT:

Effy

Welcome to the Curious Fox podcast. This podcast is for those who are challenging the status quo in love, sex, and relationships. My name is Effy Blue. Today, we have a friend of the Fox back on the show to talk about dirty talk.

Jocelyn

Hello, my name is Jocelyn Silva. I'm a bisexual polyamorous sexual empowerment coach, sex educator, first generation Latina and full time digital nomad, I empower you to embrace your sexual essence and lead a pleasure filled life.

Effy

I am fascinated by dirty talk. For someone who talks about sex all the time, reads about it listens and learns about it. For someone who is a sex positive as one can be, I have to admit, I have no dirty talk game. It's not something I've ever been able to get into. I mean, I can do it if I'm prepared. For example, I've had partners who were really, really into it. And we agree on sessions where we'd incorporate dirty talk. And I'd come prepared with what to say and how to say it. And I do my best, the sessions would be dedicated to my partner's pleasure. And I would consider to give something nice for my partner. Personally, it's not something that I seek. But it is such a popular kink. So I invited Jocelyn, to come and talk to us about it. And we started with exploring, why are people into dirty talk in the first place.

Jocelyn

One of the biggest reasons why I love to encourage people to talk dirty when they're having sex is well for two main reasons. One, it's a psychological factor. The sex is much more than just physical, we already know that it's mental, it's psychological. It's emotional. There is obviously a physical component, but it also can be spiritual, right? There's so many different components of our humanity that gets brought into intimacy. And one of them is a psychological aspect, right? So one of the beauties of dirty talk is it allows you to engage your mind, right and just kind of like, be able to get lost in whatever you're talking about with the person that you're with. The second one is for all of my over thinkers, it is an amazing way to get centered and present in the moment. Because a lot of people are having sex, you know, they they're like, Oh, I'm thinking about my To Do lists, I'm thinking about the dishes, I have to watch the kids to have to see it and this and that. And the other thing, that when you're engaging in dirty talk and allows you to get engaged in whatever's happening in front of you, that it drowns out the voices inside your mind, right. So then when they say that people are like, well, but then I'm overthinking the dirty talk, and then it actually I definitely have really great tips to share, they can really support with that. So whenever you're ready to talk about that we can dive in.

Effy

I am definitely one of those over thinkers. And I wanted to know all the tips joseline had to share. But before we went there, I was curious about all the different types of dirty talk out there.

Jocelyn

So yeah, so there are different types of dirty talk. Right? So the first one I like to call the captain obvious, right? Which is literally you saying what is happening, right? This is again, a really great way to stay present during sex. So for example, if you're writing your partner's Dick, and you're on topping a cow girl position, saying very simply, I love the way your dick feels inside me while I ride you. I am being very obvious. I'm just telling you what's happening. Like if you're suddenly nine, you're, you know, your partner's nipple. Like your nipple tastes so yummy, right? It's just like being really fucking obvious. So be Captain Obvious. Just say whatever is happening because what you're doing in that moment is you're highlighting that experience for you and your partner, right? So you're not just doing it, but you're saying that you're doing it and when you're saying that you're doing it it like, it highlights the experience for both of you, right, and it gets you present in the moment and excited, right? So that's the first one. The second one would be like dirty talk that you do for foreplay. By the way, these are not in order of like sexy time, I'm just listing them at random, just you know. So another type of dirty talk would be like, the foreplay dirty talk. So this is sexting, right? This is eating dinner, and I gazing and being like, what do you want to do to me the night like what sounds hot to you, right? Sending nudes to your partner and being like, Oh, my God, like I'm thinking about you. And this is how I'm feeling. And I can't wait to do X, Y, and Z. So really building up that tension through talking for foreplay, is also really exciting. Because you're getting that excitement going, you're like, Oh, my God, I can't wait to like, be home and be naked with you. And all the things that we're going to do together. So dirty talk for foreplay, right building of that tension. Another type of dirty talk would be in kink scenarios, right? So when you're taking on a different persona, so either with role playing, or with a BDSM, and kink, right? So in BDSM, in kinky, usually there's a power dynamic, right, and that power dynamic sometimes does bleed into the actual dynamic of the relationship that the people are engaging in. But a lot of times it doesn't, right, a lot of times, like, we are like, really, you know, equal parts in our everyday life. But in the bedroom, perhaps one is more dominant than the other. So dirty talk really allows for that fantasy to develop, right? So the more dominant one might say things like get the fuck on your knees like you dirty sweat, right? Or do what I say call me daddy. Right? So just taking on the persona of the dominant person is a part of that dominant play, and then more the submissive, you know, saying Yes, sir. Yes, daddy, whatever you say, right, like really kind of, again, taking on the persona of the dominant and the submissive role and kink and BDSM, or whatever the scenario might be, right? Because there's tons of different scenarios that can go down. But that's just like one simple example. And then the other one is in roleplay scenarios, right? So for example, let's say a couple's pretending that they're they just met at a bar, right? And so their conversation between them is going to be really different. It's not going to be like, Hey, babe, how's it going? It's going to be like, Hey, what's your name? You know, my name is so and so you're looking really beautiful. What do you do for a living? Oh, well, I am. I don't know, I'm an astronaut. What do you do? Like it's gonna be taking on that persona. So that can also be a different type of dirty talk, right. So really knowing the type of dirty talk that you want to engage in with your partner, what gets you going, what gets you exciting is going to really help know what route you want to take. also really important to know the boundaries that you have around how you want to be spoken to. Right. So I'll give you a perfect example. I had a foursome a few months back, and it was with a DOM and two of his his submissives. And I was taking on the role of the third submissive, so it was me two other women and this man, and when we were having our negotiation conversation, what I really appreciated from that was that he said, Hey, just so you know, my my subs, they have a really big segregation kink. Are you comfortable with listening to words like that? That can be the concern pretty harsh? And like, are you comfortable with witnessing degradation? degradation is necessarily a kink of mine. But I appreciated that he said that because it was like, you're going to witness some, like really harsh talking to in our dirty talk play? Is that something you're comfortable with? Right? So really having that conversation around, like what feels good? Some people might be okay with the word slut. Some people may hate that word, right? So really being open about and being very specific about the types of words that you want to be used can also help to empower everyone in that scenario, to feel free, but also feel safe,

Effy

right? So yeah, this really resonated with me. Even though dirty talk is something I don't particularly seek. I do enjoy it. If someone's really into it. Most of the time, words do matter to me. I have equally strong feelings about harsh words like sloth. Love it, as I do about cutesy words like, Baby, don't love it. So I was curious, how can we figure out what was it going to be turn ons? And what was I going to be major won't warms? Yes,

Jocelyn

I got very excited about that question. So it became very apparent to me after working with my first several clients that one of the biggest issues that my clients encounter, when it comes to sex is like, I don't know what the fuck to say. I want to talk dirty. I want to tell my partner what I want, but I don't know how to say it. I don't know what to say. Okay, so I'm gonna give you a really simple tool that everyone can do literally, it's so easy, but it's such a game changer. And it's an activity that I do with my clients called knowing me knowing you Very simple. Take out a paper and a pen literally on your own time when you're journaling, hanging out by yourself, and write a list of all the things that you really enjoy during sex, and all the things that you don't, and be as specific as possible. So for example, saying like, Okay, I really enjoy being spanked, I really enjoy hot makeout sessions, I really enjoy being caressed on my hips, I really enjoy bug grabbing, right, just being really, really, really specific about all the things that you enjoy during sex. And I usually cut this up into different categories. So like foreplay be going down on you, you're going down, I mean, touching my body touching your body kinks, and you know, after care, and it goes through a few other categories, and then you write the things that you don't like, which would be your boundaries, right? So I don't really enjoy, it could be the same thing. I don't really enjoy pain, pain player impacts play, I don't really like being spanked Right? Or I don't enjoy whatever it is that you don't enjoy. So just writing a list of that, right. So now you have a full list of things that you like, and a full list of things that you don't like, right? Then you practice reading this list out loud. The reason why so many people get stuck with dirty talk and don't know what they like. And what they don't like is that they've never actually practiced saying out loud, hey, I actually really fucking enjoy being railed hard, from behind, demeanor, like I really enjoy soft kisses on my belly, people have not given themselves the opportunity to really say that. And so once you put those into words, and you can write them, read them, say them out loud, it makes you feel more comfortable being able to express those things, right. And then from there, honestly, it's just trial and error. So trying out different things, right, like telling your partner Oh, I love it when you do this. I love it when you do that. Another cool thing about dirty talk is that you can make dirty talk, be a really great avenue for you to express to your partner what it is that you want, and what it is that you don't want, which is something that a lot of people have issues with is being able to express their likes and their dislikes during sex. So utilizing dirty talk could be a really great way to do that for you in a way that's like hot and sexy and fun. That takes away the burden of like, oh my god, I have to ask this person for this thing. Instead, it's like, let me tell you what I want you to do to me. Does that make sense?

Effy

Sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. Essentially, like adding flirtatiousness and sexiness and we would call folksiness into asking for what you want asking for your desires. Equals dirty talk, apparently.

Jocelyn

Yeah, literally. I mean, it does. Because all dirty talk is is talking about sex. And I think that we overcomplicated it because we put pressure on ourselves to be a certain type of way, or to show up a certain type of way. But all dirty talk is is talking about sex. That's all it is, is expressing what you want, and telling your partner what you're thinking of. Right? I actually have a question for you at the end. What about dirty talk makes you uncomfortable? Like what is it about it that is challenging for you?

Effy

Sure. So it doesn't make me uncomfortable. Here's my biggest issue with dirty dog. I have all the vocabulary. By the way, I loved what you're saying. I do agree with you. The biggest challenge about talking about sex, whether it's just straight up talking about sex, or dirty talk is that we don't we're not used to the taste of the language in our mouth of we're not used to using the words of sex and sexuality and desire. Like we don't do that. So when it you know, when we have to do that it feels foreign. It feels like I don't know the words I don't I've never practiced them. I don't know the taste of them. So I completely agree with you on that one. And for me, I don't have that problem, right. Because like you I talk about sex all day long, you know, 150 episodes in which we know Jackie and I have talked all the areas of sex isn't doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, what I experienced is, when I go and look for words, I find myself in my head and I am not disassociated, but I'm not in my body. So like the senses that I'm getting from my body, kind of take a back seat. And where I am is in kind of very much in frontal lobe, trying to find the right like I get worthy and when I get worthy, I'm in my head, and then I'm disconnected from my body. So I can't quite find the bridge of how can I be in my body and experience all the sensations that I absolutely love and like relax into that and be very embodied and kind of find the words and the vibe in my mind to then actually find the words like I don't know how to bridge that that's the that's the struggle I have. It's not a matter of discomfort. It's like in order for me to do this I have to I currently haven't mastered being in my in my body and finding my words.

Jocelyn

I love the way you said that the taste of the language and my mouth

Effy

yeah

Jocelyn

this practice is practice. Yeah. Okay, I hear you. And this is why I like to say the when people are starting to be captain obvious, right? So in those moments when you're feeling the sensation in your body to just be very, like, simple and obvious with what you're feeling, right, like, Wow, that feels really good. Holy shit. That was so hot. Wow. Like I love the way you taste right now. You're turning me on so much. I can't wait to fuck you, right? Just keeping it really simple and keeping it to like, what is actually happening? Whoa, my nipples are so hard. No shit. Your nipples are hard, but just say it just makes you say it.

Effy

Like it harder when I say yeah. I mean, I make a lot of noise. I'm not like entirely silent. Right? So I'm actually kind of noisy. I'm a noisy, noisy play partner. I think you're right. I think what I'm getting from you is I complicate things. I think I once I reach for words, I think words is where I feel most kind of accomplished. And once I go there, I'm like, well, I need I need to find the right words. I need to find, you know, the right tone. And I think I get lost in that. But I think you're right by just like stick with Captain Obvious. I think a formula that I've heard before is like say what you're going to do. See what you're doing, say what you've just done. They talk about what you're anticipating talk about how you feeling talk about how it felt. Kind of try that maybe keep it simple. Like that's my my biggest takeaways like keep it simple. Yeah,

Jocelyn

like say, what's my pussy? So what? No shit your PCs? What? Oh, my God, I have goosebumps. No shit, you have this. You know what I mean? Like I was just to see what's happening and highlights the situation. It makes it more fun. And another thing that people bring up challenges about that I want to mention also is it goes similar to what you just said about finding the words and not being so wordy, but also finding the words that feels good for us, right? A lot of people don't like the word pussy. So like finding a word that feels good for you, like, Oh, I love my yummy, or my vulva. Or when you're licking me down there, like whatever it is that feels good for you and feels comfortable is also really important. Like using words that feel in alignment and that don't feel uncomfortable. That's also really important isn't that's gonna feel inauthentic to Right? Like, if you're saying things that are just like, I actually really don't fucking like this word. Like, I'll be honest, I don't like the word bitch. I don't use that word in my everyday. It's not in my everyday language. I've never liked it. I don't like being called that, or I don't like calling people that once in a blue moon, you'll hear me say it. And usually when I say it, people are like, you know, just knowing the words that you feel comfortable with is also really important when you're engaging in this type of play.

Effy

I think that's a really good tip. Also, knowing what your partner wants to hear as well. Like, is it a cost? Is it dig? Is it your member? Like, what do you what do you want me to call it? So I think that's really important as well. And I've noticed actually, when I talk about my role in a sexual way, I kind of embody, I embody her. And it's like when I say I like the way you touch me. What I mean is I like the way you touch my vulva. And I think I find myself when I am, when I do get to talk about it, it's probably like in more on the foreplay section of the session, when I'm kind of explaining or kind of talking about what I like, I've noticed that I kind of really embody my role. And I talk about it like that, like when I say me, or I that's I actually mean my whole was. So that's kind of a thing that I've noticed for myself, and policy, something that I had to get used to put these very American in Europe, proceed doesn't come up. Like I grew up in Europe, and policy was something that you heard on TV, what the American said, you know, it's like that's, that's kind of what it was like, and then I've been, you know, I've been living in the US for so long. I kind of know I'm like, oh, yeah, I get I can get behind policy. The Yoni I like, that's definitely like, a nice spiritual way to wait to talk about it. That's for sure. Yeah, and asking your partner what they call which part I think is really important, do you think?

Jocelyn

Yeah, especially when it comes? I mean, in all relationships, it doesn't matter what sexuality or body parts you have. I do want to highlight though, and say that, especially in queer relationships, it's important to check in, right, so thank you so much for bringing that up. So if you're dating someone who is non binary, or having sex with someone who's non binary, if you're having sex with someone who's trans, right, or even if you know they're cisgender, however, there's certain words that they prefer over others. It's really awesome to be able to check in like, how do you like for me to refer to your body and asking that as a really great, really, really, really awesome tool. Also And what you're saying about Europe. So I started traveling two years ago full time and talking dirty, while hooking up with people from different countries is a whole nother experience. So I speak Spanish and I was in Spain, and I was having sex with this guy. And I kept saying, Man, gotta go my caucus. I was like, got him in. And it didn't really do much for him. And he kept saying, Get us get the FOIA. And I was like, Go him in and he's like, get us get the FOIA. And he's like, I was like, going, and we just like weren't understanding each other. And finally, he's like, it's I said, For you met, and he went crazy. And I was like, okay, and then I said, we got the two burger. And he was like, maybe there was somebody boy. Yeah. And also what is going on? Apparently in Spain, boy, yeah. Is penis and four. Yeah, is fuck, but in Mexico, better guy is penis and go ahead as fuck go here in Spain means to take. So I was saying, Take me and he was like, do me to bug you. And I was like, take me. Like getting lost in translation, when he was saying was doing nothing for me. And what I was saying is doing nothing for him. So if you're traveling and talking dirty, maybe check in and be like, how do you call body parts and stuff in your country?

Effy

That's such a good story. I love that. I actually recently was looking at with somebody who's German first language, German, but we've always spoken English. And I think I maybe witnessed him talk German on the phone, like briefly. I mean, I speak a little bit of German, but mostly we're speaking English until we were having sex. And then he was like talking to me in German. I was like, Whoa, this is crazy. Right? I mean, I don't understand. And we can, you can do a Google Translate afterwards. But you're right. I think especially if you're traveling, you get some good experiences with different languages.

Jocelyn

Yeah, I also hooked up with this French guy, he kept saying Pietta, and I thought he was saying Buddha. And I was like, Oh, I don't like that. Right. But better, I guess means like, fuck, like, oh, fuck in, in French. Yeah. So I thought that was funny. Listen,

Effy

it's always fun exchanging sexy stories with fellow multilingual travelers. I was getting a lot out of this conversation with Jocelyn, I got clear about different types of dirty talk, considering what might work for me agreed that finding the right language is a game changer. Practicing your sex worker will make things easier when things get hot and heavy. Next, I wondered how you bring up dirty talk with a partner. If it's something you've never done before, do you just drop it in the middle of a sexy sash and see how they act.

Jocelyn

I work with a lot of individuals who have been with their partners for a long period of time. And then now they're introducing something new. And something that I've noticed happens is that when you're with someone for, you know, five plus years, you develop social norms, and you develop ways in which you were used to communicating with one another. And so, in those instances, I wouldn't recommend just randomly saying something, because it's something that's new, right? And it's something that could be really scary. It really actually is a very vulnerable thing to do. I don't think people realize, and maybe people don't, maybe people do realize, and that's why it's so challenging for so many people to engage in dirty talk. But talking dirty can be a really vulnerable experience, right to express yourself very raw and very raw way to tell your partner what you want them to do and what you like and what you don't like. It's it can feel very vulnerable. So what I would recommend is opening up that conversation and saying like, Hey, I listened to curious foxes episode with Jocelyn and Effie. And and I really,

Effy

you're really as episode isn't this interesting?

Jocelyn

And I'm really curious about like talking journey, how does that feel for you? And then just kind of having an open ended conversation? And then you're getting your partner's input? Well, they'll probably say something. What, what do you mean dirty talk? Well, I mean, like, what if we practice sexting or what if we practice telling each other what we want from one another or expressing what we like and what we don't like? Or maybe role playing scenarios or maybe even trying some kink dynamics, right, whatever it is that you want to try? That you think dirty talk will help right in that and then having a conversation about it? Well, okay, well, what would it look like if we talk dirty? Well, okay, I would really appreciate this and this and this, I don't think I would like this and this and this. How would you like me to refer to your body in this in this in this way? And then giving yourself the opportunity to like stumble a little bit like, I was like, yes, like, obviously, as a sex coach, I take my job seriously, but also like It's fun to it's important to be playful. You know, like, if you feel silly saying something laugh, you know, like, Oh, that sounded funny, like, Oops, you know, if you, if something feels uncomfortable, give yourself the opportunity to be playful to laugh at yourselves, you know, to, to laugh at your to giggle like, right if something feels a little off and to just kind of fumble around as you're getting your footing in this new type of play. Also, be open to feedback, right? So, and be gentle with your feedback, right? So if you say something that maybe your partner wasn't into, if you were that partner who didn't like that, you know, say, Hey, babe, I actually am not crazy about Am I crazy about that, or like, I'm not really into that word, or can use a different word or that made me feel a little uncomfortable. And then to be open to that to be receptive, right? Again, it can be evolved very vulnerable experience. So if you are receiving feedback, it can feel like oh, no, I fucked up, like, I put myself out there. And now Now I like did something wrong. But the way that the person gives the feedback also has a lot to do with like how that person receives it. So just like everyone present, being open to receiving and giving that feedback in a really kind and loving way. And holding each other in that vulnerable space is also very, very important.

Effy

I also love that you're saying it should be a playful experience. I think we sometimes Yeah, especially if you're trying something new we can get really like committed to the to the experience and feel really tight about it. But I think being playful and humor, like throw humor in there, and it's just gonna make everything better. Here's what I say for sure. I can also imagine like getting creative right now as I hear you speak like what are some of the ways that I can unlock myself? And one of the things that came up for me is like I love being read to I always have done because I'm I think I'm an audiophile, right. This is why I do a podcast. I've been listening to radio since I was little like I was never that much into TV. So I think I'm an audiophile like, I like hearing things. And that's why when if someone is dirty talking to me, like I really enjoy it. And one of those things I enjoys being read to. So I can imagine like, somebody like reading erotica, to me, can being really hot. And they even don't have the words. There are million writers out there who have amazing words, maybe like finding some some erotica and like being read to that's like, suddenly felt really hot to me. Especially someone like Jackie who is not with us right now. But she has this like sultry voice that she puts on when she's like reading things. I can totally imagine her like someone like her. It's just like, read me erotica. I'd be like, Oh, this is so hot. Or even now there's so much audio porn, I think like dips is a good platform. Audio Pong, I think that might also be a way to like maybe even listening to audio Pong together with your partner and saying, Oh, that feels hot, that doesn't feel hot. You know, and finding some like dirty words that we don't like slit is like a like a very audio poison. Word for a vulva that I recently discovered, you know? It's really like, oh, so I think maybe that as well like reading some erotica reading to each other. And maybe listening some audio point would also maybe get people like, inspired and try things out without feeling too vulnerable. Because you're not seeing the words if you'd like you can you can snuggle up with your partner and listen to them and be like, Oh, I like that. I don't like that. Oh, that feels weird. Maybe that would be a good way to sort of figure out that that vulnerability piece.

Jocelyn

Yeah, that's amazing idea or even doing it on your own right? Like, if you want to just kind of like read a book on your own. It's actually a great idea. I'm actually reading an erotica right now. And a novel. Well, I read it in bits. And it's true. Like there was some ways that like, authors get really creative with how they describe like scenarios, right? Especially in a book, you think about it, you have to, like, describe everything that's happening so that you can create a mental picture, it does really support you and be able to find those words. So that's an amazing idea. Yeah,

Effy

I mean, there are great erotica novels out there. There's also in fact, in my first introduction to anything kind of like before even found porn. When I was younger, I found a website called literal attica.com Like literature erotica, litter. article.com. Now was my first like exposure to like anything that's kind of erotic and sexy. And I would just like scroll and like find, find these like, long stories that I would like read them like, oh my god, this is so hot. So there's like short stories out on the internet. You don't even need to get into novels, but they're also like some amazing robotic novels out there that you can get into as well. So I think we should normalize like normalize reading like bedtime reading adult bedtime reading. Oh my god.

Jocelyn

Yes, I will. I've been doing that lately, and it's been a lot of fun. I've been having a blast. I mean, even 50 Shades of Grey series is not my favorite for several reasons that have to do with like unethical kink involvement. ans i will say that one of the things I really appreciate about that series is that it did normalize people reading erotica, right? So we need to bring that back. We didn't like make another buck popular that everyone reads again. Because that was one of the cool things about that.

Effy

Holy oh, maybe like, maybe like an erotic book club. erotic novel book club. Oh, that's true. In fact, this is a call out to all our listeners. If you're in an erotic novel, erotic book, erotic novel, book club, please write in. I really want to know what you're reading. How's it going? How's the club part happening? How are your

Jocelyn

skills improved since joining the club?

Effy

He's like, does the book club piece end up being an orgy? How does this work?

Unknown Speaker

If it is, I'll join.

Effy

I feel like that's a good one. Maybe in the future, sometime, we can start a curious Fox book club. And that will be about like it wasn't novels. I like this idea if Jackie was here, she'd be all over that. Right.

Jocelyn

That's a great idea. Because there are some cheesy ones out there. So we got to sift through the you know, the ones and find the ones that you know, feel. I mean, everyone's different. Everyone likes something different. But yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun.

Effy

I think like normalize it as well. I think I think that we do here inspiration and permission people. Like I hope this gives people inspiration to go like dig into the erotica section of their bookstore, and then permission like everyone's doing it. Go on read it. It's okay. Enjoy. Put it by your bedtime like good bedtime reading adults, adults bedtime reading. So love that. Yeah, I agree. This conversation was inspiring and encouraging for me, with joseline clear guidance ringing in my ears.

Jocelyn

Just like don't overcomplicate it, you know if I can put it really simple steps. One, admit to yourself what you like and what you don't like to write it down in the list and a piece of paper and a pen. Three, practice saying those words out loud, get used to the taste of the language in your mouth, right? Bring up the conversation with your partner. And five just like learn through trial and error and have fun, feel free to stumble and fumble and laugh at yourselves.

Effy

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